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Guns Should Be Licensed And Registered

Do You Want People Driving a Car Without a License? And Other Notes

After recent events with mass shootings, JB Davis, Benicia Patch’s editor asked about . I read many of the comments, which were often about unrelated topics. Eventually, with the sane voice of Steve Bahr, the discussion came back to some kind of reason. Seems Switzerland actually does have a significant amount of guns and ammunition control.

The Second Amendment of the US Constitution says, “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

The constitution isn’t perfect. That’s why it’s been amended a number of times. As stated, the right to bear arms is linked to militia use. Nothing else. I don’t have a problem with people having guns, if the person is checked out and the gun is a reasonable kind. Not assault weapons.

The National Rifle Association has bought and paid for our representatives to the point that even President Obama is afraid to utter the words “gun control.”

To those who thought that the heavily armed gunman who entered a darkened theatre in Colorado a few weeks ago could have been brought down if someone else had a gun—that’s possible, but how about if half a dozen people had guns and they all leaped up into the darkness and started shooting at anything that moved? That would be mayhem.

Driving a car is a privilege and we are required to have some knowledge about the laws and pass a test to have a license. A car isn’t a lethal weapon!

Just because we have drivers who break the law, do you think we should do away with traffic enforcement laws? Some people still drive drunk, but do you want to get rid of the laws in that regard? We don’t live in a perfect world, but in some cases we’ve made progress.

When I was a young woman, people routinely went to parties or bars, drank as much as they wanted and then drove home. The more restrictive laws in regard to drinking and driving have decreased that practice—among the people I know.

Ironically, I believe that the idea that toting a gun makes us safer is linked for many at the national level. They believe that having a strong military makes us safer. So, since WWII while we have built up our military-industrial complex, as Eisenhower warned against, our former enemies haven’t. Germany and Japan have spent money on infrastructure. I don’t believe there has been a war since WWII that has made us safer.

On another subject, I want to thank Renee Jordan of Jordan Real Estate for paying the cost of having poems printed for the Poem Homes. And, thank you to the First United Methodist Church of Vallejo for loaning us a podium for the Poets’ Picnic and to our five teenage volunteers (four of whom are pictured): Marcos Ansaldi, Lainy Appleby, Nick Lamb, Sophie Lannen, and Brooke Reddel.

upptick August 09, 2012 at 04:46 AM
Firearms are designed to compensate for a lack of physical advantage. They are not designed necessarily "to kill." For example, the overwhelming defensive use of firearms does not even involve their discharge -- merely displaying a firearm to a bad guy virtually always ends the confrontation with the bully sulking away.
upptick August 09, 2012 at 04:49 AM
Switzerland has universal assault rifle ownership with every household having an assault rifle and ammunition, yet there is virtually no gun violence. They do, however, control and restrict violent content that is shown as entertainment, particularly to children. And the victims in Aurora shooting were all paying money to enjoy silver screen mayhem when their fantasies came to life. Mr. Straw, it just ain't about the guns.
John Headley August 09, 2012 at 04:57 AM
Rhyme Time. I'm not sure why this hasn't been asked of you yet, but if you hate this racist non equal opportunity city so much why not move to its red headed step child sister city Vallejo? Their you and your unemployed friends can hang out on downtown Georgia st, and rap and jive all day. You will be surrounded with like minded individuals who blame all their short comings on the world around them. Then during their eclectic Farmer's Markets you can stand on your podium and regurgitate your non-melodic rhetoric. To live in a city Less crime, beautiful views I'm delusional Impossibly rude Sometimes lethargic Without fortitude I burnt my chili Only half truth Can't call it chili Wasn't really food
Babaloo August 09, 2012 at 06:44 AM
Roger...you obviously are not familiar with military tactics. Russia did not understand military tactics and were defeated by a lesser equiped force. yes they were trained in gorilla warfare by US troops. they had heart. we do not have "assault weapons", just weapons that can inflict severe bodily harm to the opposing combatant. do we need these weapons,,yes we do. does the regular joe need them per say,,well yes and NO. i have to agree with parts of your post. but not all. yes a small army can defeat a larger force. yes a small group with "hand guns" can defeat a larger armored force. don't ever believe it cannot happen, it has been done and can be done again. learn about military tactics and there will be others who defeat those tactics and make new ones. Military snipers can defeat an army one soldier at a time. So..protect the second amendment, protect the first amendment. i am a pacifist myself, yet i understand and support the rights of others to bear arms. per Admiral Yamamoto when asked why they do not invade the United States, " behind every blade of grass is a rifle" this knowledge is very helpful to the defense of America. The Dali Lama is a pacifist, yet he knows that sometimes it takes a "fist" to pacify others. he is a Martial Arts Master. highest rank in his art. so..think about that one.....
JB Davis (Editor) August 09, 2012 at 11:20 AM
Let's get away from questioning Bobby and get back to the question of gun control and whether the nation ought to ban the sale of assault type weapons.
Robert Livesay August 09, 2012 at 02:51 PM
JB you let him sound off. Stop his nonsense and the problem is solved. I do not like to sound off on Bobbie but he brings it on. Just what would you expect when he mentions others and my name. We will come back. JB I do believe as the editor it is your duty to control Bobbie Richardson not mine or other folks that comment. That said I will follow your advise until he comes at me again. JB it is your responsibility.
"The Black Panther of Poetry" August 09, 2012 at 03:38 PM
You guys get so pissed at me because I stand up and fight back. I don't let you get away with your racist crap. You people would love to blame this on minorities/black people. Remember these racist statements: jimpugh 11:23 am on Friday, November 18, 2011 The city of Vallejo has turned into a killing field these days. It is no wonder given that the size of the force directed to control such things is just no longer large enough to stop these things from happening. It is sad that enough though Officer Capoot was wearing full body armour, he was unable to keep from being fatally shot. Today the animals are controling the Zoo which is now called Vallejo. jimpugh Joe Feltcher 1:34 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012 Thank you BPD for keeping tight reigns on this trash that keeps coming into Benicia to stir up trouble. Personally I am getting sick of it. Babaloo 2:09 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012 Thank YOU Benicia PD.....who took the trash out,,,wuf wuf woof woof.... Lori Cannon 3:41 pm on Sunday, July 15, 2012 So what was your implication of suspect? You said "Go back to Vallejo"...Suspect lives in American Canyon....That's just 2 zip codes away....just clarifying :-) Joe Feltcher 10:03 am on Thursday, June 28, 2012 I look forward to reading an article about robberies, bank holdups, and copper thefts from the Industrial park that do NOT involve Blacks from out of town. Please let me know when THAT article is published....
"The Black Panther of Poetry" August 09, 2012 at 03:39 PM
Racist Comments Continued: Joe Feltcher 4:54 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 Can we close the border with Vallejo? Is that feasible? I'd rather the City spend money on that than solar panels. Michaelangelo 6:15 pm on Wednesday, June 27, 2012 Well regardless of who ever fired the shots, closing the border between Benicia and Vallejo is not a bad idea. Oh and while we're at it lets allocate some of the city's precious funds to providing a class to those individuals who have purchased a house within a stones throw of the refinery. A class on environmental/health effects caused by residing near a refinery would be benificial, so that way after people leave their 3,200 sq ft homes I'll be able to pick one of them up for dirt cheap, FHA and all! Please excuse the brief tyrade.... A few comments prior to mine it appears that Mayor Osby is posing as Bobby Richardson. No Mr. mayor, for the 4th time this year CC Sabahia will not give you free tickets to catch a Yankees game.
Virginia Fontaine August 09, 2012 at 07:37 PM
I am going to keep this short and sweet. I couldn't agree more with Lois; I support people having hunting rifles if that is what they enjoy doing (killing defenseless animals). BUT, there is no good reason to allow people other than those in the military or police service to carry automatic guns. I sincerely enjoy the Benicia Patch with one exception; listening to the self-absorbed, lunatic ramblings of Robert Livesay! Get a life! Over and out...
Robert Livesay August 09, 2012 at 08:28 PM
First off Virginia you do not listen you read. So much for your lunitic lefty socialist brain. I do not ramble I write. If you do not agree do not read my very Conservative writing. I am not a lunitic the honor is reserved for you Virginia.
John Headley August 10, 2012 at 04:44 AM
O' man river, Dat ol' man river, He mus'know sumpin' But don't say nuthin' He jes' keeps rollin' He keeps on rollin' along. Long ol' river forever keeps rollin' on... He don' plant tater, He don' plant cotton, An' dem dat plants 'em Is soon forgotten, but ol' man river, He jes' keeps rollin' along. Ah, gits weary An' sick of tryin' Ah'm tired of livin' An' skeered of dyin', But ol' man river, He jes'keeps rollin' along!
Karl Voigt August 10, 2012 at 01:50 PM
JB, It looks to me like you are failing as the Moderator of this Patch. You've let two self absorbed idiots completely dominate it, on issue after issue.
Robert Livesay August 10, 2012 at 02:26 PM
Carl just who are the two self absorbed idiots. I do believe I know who one is. If you are also refering to me I would need a reason.
JB Davis (Editor) August 10, 2012 at 02:36 PM
Bob, Let's stick with this article and gun control.
Robert Livesay August 10, 2012 at 03:18 PM
JB I will do my best to stick to the topic. I will need some help from you. When I am personally attacked I will respond. So I do believe you as the editor have the bigger part than any commentor. First try Bobbie and then go to Virginia. There was no need for either of their comments. Bobbie starts it and others come back at him. I do not believe in censorship but there does come a time for a little editing. I have been very up front about my feelings on Bobbie and anyone that wants to get personal.. I can be just as vocal and nasty as anyone. JB it starts with you the editor.
Roger Straw August 10, 2012 at 04:13 PM
BL: "I can be just as vocal and nasty as anyone." One does need to learn NOT to respond when attacked... Probably more important than learning NOT to attack!
Robert Livesay August 10, 2012 at 04:56 PM
RS I do understand what you are saying. But some folks attack not on the issue but ones political standing. In Benicia being a Conservative I or anyone can be accussed of idealology that is wrong on an individual bases. As you know I am my own man and try to be identified as Bob Livesay and stand alone in this town on many issues. More important I do my homework and when I am attacked on something that I know I am correct on I do go a little haywire. Now JB this could be considered off topic. But the comments take the section in and out of topic. Sorry JB I do not mean to be off topic.
"The Black Panther of Poetry" August 10, 2012 at 05:43 PM
Why are you reciting a Paul Robeson song. A Proud and Militant African-American who fought against white racism but yet it still got the best of him. WHY!!! Stop It!!! You CAN'T diss his people and recite his music at the same time!!!!
"The Black Panther of Poetry" August 10, 2012 at 07:01 PM
Roger Straw, that is some great advice and smart advice and people should adhere to it. But I am not one of those people....I don't pick fights...I am not a bully and as a matter of fact, I hate bullies...But I will stike back when struck.. So while you are referring to Robert Livesay in your comment, it behooves me to let you and others on this site know that I will not turn the other cheek... I just can't do it and I make no apologies for who and what I am and how I feel!! GUNS KILL PEOPLE!!!
kirk August 11, 2012 at 01:16 AM
Mr. Richardson, There is racism in all races including mine and yours, always has been and always will. I only see one racist statement from other commenters that you listed above all the others were towards Vallejo folks which is not a race of people. Some people think they are better because they live here . We have a friend that lives in Lafayette and would never live in Benicia, not quite upscale enough for her. Vallejo has a lot of great people and just a small few give a bad impression (like any town) and the comments against them may be unfair but they are not racist. I hope you are not a hater because it will eat you up inside
"The Black Panther of Poetry" August 11, 2012 at 02:31 AM
Mr. Kirk Johnson, you telling me the racist statements made by the people that I mention is not racist is like a spider telling a fly that spiders don't eat them. Ok, just for the sake of argument lets say they are not racist statements. At best they are un-Christian comments being spewed in a Judae/Christian society and they are childish. And I don't have hatred for anyone, the people that have been doing these shooting from the good Senator and the little girl that was killed to the Wisconsin shooting of recently is the one you should be addressing your bias diatribe to. I don't feel hatred for you people....Really, I feel sorry!!!!
Robert Livesay August 11, 2012 at 02:47 AM
Bobbie take a vaction, you need it.
kirk August 11, 2012 at 03:03 AM
What bias diatribe and what do you mean by you people. They were not nice comments made by others I agree but you fly off the handle too easy and I know hatred when I see it . I am new on here but recognize instability I don't plan to converse with you in the future and by the way my people are Hebrew
"The Black Panther of Poetry" August 11, 2012 at 03:53 AM
Thank you Kirk Johnson...Is that a promise!!!
"The Black Panther of Poetry" August 11, 2012 at 04:48 AM
“In the whitest lie,and in the blackest fright, No racism shall escape this black mans' sight. Let those who practice their racist rite, Beware my power… "Black mans'" Might!!!“
Beate Brühl August 11, 2012 at 05:49 AM
Karl Voigt's first suggestion that Lois Requit's piece should be titled "Ramblings of an Old Dotard" is either a pathetic attempt at humor, or the rudest comment I have read so far. Either way, it also shows poor knowledge of the English language.
Robert Livesay August 11, 2012 at 02:34 PM
JB Bobbie Richardson brings out the worst in some very good folks that comment. If that is what you are trying to do you did it. When Kirk says he is all done conversing with Bobbie that has to tell you something. Am I Bob Livesay guilty of firing back at Bobbie Richardson? Yes and I am not happy about it. JB I do believe you have some fear of Bobbie Richarson. Why I do not know but it sure appears you let him get off topic and run wild. I do believe when Bobbie goes at it with his racist rant it does make others come bvack. I do believe we should all just stop conversing with Bobbie. I will join Kirk and I do hope others also do the same. Just let him rant. Is it a boycott? No just could comment practices. JB you are letting a good part of your on line paper be controlled by someone that is only causing a divide . I must admit he drew me in and for that I do apologize to the readers. It does none of us any good nor does it make our comments viable.
Robert Livesay August 11, 2012 at 02:37 PM
should have read: No, just good comment practice.
Gdo August 13, 2012 at 02:26 PM
There's no need to be rude. Your mother would be ashamed of your bad manners. Besides, her point was that cars' have a primary purpose that is not weaponry. This is true. A gun's primary purpose is as a weapon.
0U812 August 26, 2012 at 06:48 AM
Virginia, people can't "carry automatic guns" they are HIGHLY regulated and cannot be easily obtained. If you mean semi-automatic, then your refering to the vast majority of firearms. People please EDUCATE yourself before you throw around terms like "assult weapons" and "automatic weapons", and buy into total gun control advocates untrue and misleading statements.

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