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Benicia Pensions: What BUSD Retirees Are Receiving

CalPERS pension list shows what former school employees are collecting.

Nearly 160 school employees retired from the Benicia Unified School district are collecting pensions, and unlike retirees in some districts in the state, none are receiving more than $100,000 a year.

The retirement compensation is part of a list posted by the San Jose Mercury News and other newspapers.

The CalPERS list was unveiled as the state Legislature last week approved a pension reform bill that is now on Gov. Jerry Brown's desk.

Among other reforms, the legislation raises the retirement age for most new employees from 55 to 67 to receive full benefits. It also eliminates so-called "double dipping" and caps the pensions of highly paid retired workers.

In the Benicia Unified School District, there are 158 retirees listed who are receiving CalPERS pensions.

At the top is retiree Susan Sullivan who was earning $8,825.35 a month when she retired after working just more than 38 years in the district. Sullivan collects about $8,300 a month in pension, or more than $99,000 a year.

Next is Joanne Haukland who was earning $11,814.20 a month when she retired after working more than 33 years in education. Haukland collects about $8,185 a month in pension, or more than $98,000 a year.

There is one retiree who collects more than $7,000 a month and four retirees listed who collect more than $6,000 a month.

At the bottom of the list, there are two retirees listed who receive less than $500 a month.

Some employees are collecting CalPERS pensions from more than one agency. Teachers also don't receive Social Security benefits, even if they paid into the social security system before becoming teachers.

Tomorrow Patch will look at pensions for city employees.

Do you think it is fair that teachers who paid into social security before becoming educators can't collect their social security benefit?  Tell us in comments.

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Robert Livesay September 19, 2012 at 02:32 PM
I do believe in the teacher retirement plan you may want to look at how much the teachers contributed. I may surprise you. The plan has been in place and now has changed. Maybe some of the foks went into the wrong profession.
Rene Duffield September 19, 2012 at 02:50 PM
I do not believe it is fair for them to not collect what they have paid in SS. If they paid it to the feds and are receiving state retirement then the feds should send the SS to CA if they are not going to pay the payee directly.
Sue Mehl September 19, 2012 at 03:33 PM
It might be worth considering that Susan Sullivan was a site principal and Joanne Haukland was a superintendent. Teacher salaries are not the same as the administrators. All the retirements are based on highest levels of earning, years served/paying into STRS and age.....The employee contribution to STRS is almost double what is held from Social Security wages, this means the teachers take home less during their teaching careers, but then have more invested for their retirements when they need all that extra medical care! :) It is something akin to an IRA, but the pension plan mandates the contribution level....contribute more, get more back later...that's why the Federal govt has worked so hard to encourage everyone to contribute to additional retirement plans....yes, teachers may work extra jobs and pay into Social Security; but, in the State of California and a few others, teachers do not qualify for the receipt of their full contribution....they, if they have contributed to Social Security along the way--like summer jobs or something, with qualify for about 25% of what a person of like contributions would qualify for....There is a lot more to be said about this topic, but it is well worthwhile to investigate all the numbers, related benefits received, contributions put in, calculation formulas, etc before getting too carried away....it is much more complex than a few #s on a piece of paper..what is the goal of publishing this list? What is the goal of this legislation?
Sonny Flores September 19, 2012 at 04:36 PM
 The article fails to include that when the salary is reported, it fails to mention that the total sum may include additional benefits, i.e. Healthcare contributions: medical, dental.  For example , a topped out 30 yr retired Facility Captain, CDCR is reported 111,000 per year, but the amount is inclusive of the benefit package.  Actual salary 96,000 per yr. not 111,000. Additionally, teachers have to pay for their own health care, 800-1000 per month. They do not receive a  healthcare benefit.  Teachers work hard and are under paid, I was surprised to find out they have no health plan when they retire.  I also believe that if you had a career as a Fireman, worked in a prison or a cop on a beat, you deserve the pension plan for putting your life on the line every day.
Sonny Flores September 19, 2012 at 04:43 PM
And as Sue reported, a State employee does not receive their full social security benefit. A law was passed during the Regan years, it considers the drawing of two pension plans "double dippIng"' however, a legislator or the president himself can draw on both. Now to me there is something wrong with that. So, like many others I will only receive a small percentage of my social security benifit. Just plain wrong.
Karl Voigt September 19, 2012 at 07:19 PM
How many actual working days, or better actual hours on the job, do teachers put in a year ?
Robert Livesay September 19, 2012 at 07:53 PM
Benicia City Employees do not receive a retirement medical benefit.. Have to pay at the employer rate till 65 or use a spouse medical benefits.
Sue Mehl September 19, 2012 at 08:09 PM
Their contract calls for 182 days per year; 180 are student days, 2 are district prep days.....Actual hours????: now you've opened a can of worms!!!! Since it is a salary, the job isn't done until the job is done.....it could take 8 hours a day or 12 hours a day....Saturdays, Sundays, summer vacations; staff meetings, department meetings, WASC evaluation preparation, continuing education, lunch-time & after school tutoring, course revisions, grading papers, writing and preparing for lesson plans, attending IEP and 504 meetings for special needs students, parent contacts, discipline issues, extra duty hours; some of this can be dealt with in the 55 minute prep time high school teachers get, but, Karl, how much time do you think it takes to ready a class of 33 essays? Now, multiply that by 5....so, you see, it may seem like we have LOTS of TIME OFF--but teaching is not just a job that someone does, punching a time clock in and punching a time clock out--it is both a profession and a vocation. You must know that the teachers here at BUSD--and most teachers I know both state and nation-wide-- are qualtiy people; they put in the time for your students---LOTS and LOTS of time & deal with lots and lots of "stuff".....it is a happy thing that many teachers can continue their dedication to their profession and that many parents & students appreciate that!
JB Davis (Editor) September 19, 2012 at 10:29 PM
Karl, I know a lot of teachers. I don't know any full time teachers who work a regular 40 hour work week. I think most full-time teachers work between 40 and 50 hours a week when you add in all the after school prep time, homework that needs to be corrected and graded and writing lesson plans.
JB Davis (Editor) September 19, 2012 at 11:14 PM
The rub for me comes when someone changes profession. They might spend 15 or 20 years in the private sector before becoming a teacher. Anybody else who spends 20 years paying into social security gets to collect the full benefit.
Paula Marchese-Caccamo September 19, 2012 at 11:22 PM
Large monthly contributions and decades of tireless service.
not from vallejo September 20, 2012 at 12:46 AM
Mrs. Mehl,you were a great teacher and neighbor,thank you for everything!! You deserve evey penny and more for dealing with us. Its true.... We get it full circle. Thanks for fighting the good fight!
Ariel smith September 20, 2012 at 02:19 AM
Joe, you should have more class.
A M R September 20, 2012 at 02:53 AM
More class?? He should be flagged as a total a**hole, he's way past the inappropriate marker!
Joe Feltcher September 20, 2012 at 03:04 AM
Geez! I call her an "OK teacher" and I get this kind of attack? So sorry I didn't say she "was the best teacher ever!". My God. I just can't win.
Robert Livesay September 20, 2012 at 03:10 AM
It was just an opinion
Babaloo September 20, 2012 at 04:06 AM
this is ridiculous. they earned every penny. you and i should not even be discussing this issue. they also should be receiving social security benefits as well. talk of "double dipping" hell. the government is as crooked as they come in regards to pensions. teachers teach, deal with NO MONEY most of the time and they teach. teach a lot of deserving children and then deal with a lot of future san quentin inmates in other instances. i have freinds who teach, 99% of the kids are great. but the 1%. takes more than their alloted time. and then their parents get involved and it is even worse. so pay the teachers more money, QUIET about their pensions, it is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. they earned it, YOU didn't. so when you have to lay your life on the line every day, or deal with what the teachers have to deal with ( see job complaints) then you need to mind your own business. HOW DARE BENICIA PATCH post this inflammatory YELLOW JOURNALISM, to create some sort of uproar in the community. USELESS RAG if it was on paper.
"The Black Panther of Poetry" September 20, 2012 at 05:26 AM
LOOK!!! You weak over six feet tall/small shell of a man!! Your height and yoiur size don't scare me. If police officers (whom mostly are huge like atheletes) can't handle the job then don't F.N take it. You knew the F..N job was dangerous when you took it,. So don't go crying like a bunch or oversized bitches that you really are, and deal with it, 'ESSE"!!! Your body size might scare women and old people but I have seen YOU. I'ved kicked your ass in high school for being a bully. YEAH!! That was me the little guy that put fear in your everyday wakening life. SO please stop justifying cops Killing people!!! It won't work and we are not buying it!!!
JB Davis (Editor) September 20, 2012 at 11:33 AM
His Navy retirement includes a health benefit doesn't it? I don't think teachers get health care.
Robert Livesay September 20, 2012 at 03:07 PM
Bobbie you need a job. I saw a hiring sign at McDonalds the other day. Did you apply?
Robert Livesay September 20, 2012 at 03:21 PM
Teachers in some cases do get retire healthcare but not all. They put in 8% of there salary toward retirement. Employer a little over 8% and state 2%. Also can get a reduced amount of S/S and in some cases none at all if they have contributed at some time.
Riley Willerson September 20, 2012 at 04:18 PM
Bobby, take a breath, what and who are you ranting about. You continue to preach violence as a way of solving issues, boasting of your own battles. Truely take a look at yourself, you are beginning to be a partner of Joe Fletcher, you appear to be his yin to his yang. And yes a job may be in order. There is work out there
"The Black Panther of Poetry" September 20, 2012 at 05:56 PM
That was for Babaloo, who is defending Cops killing our young men in Vallejo and just anywhere in America. But you can have some of it if you want!!!
Riley Willerson September 21, 2012 at 01:35 AM
Wow you are such a fine example of a peaceful warrior, "Black Panther Poet" yes wrongful death is a fact, but you have 97% Of black men who die a violent death between the ages of 16 & 21, killed by their own race. Poverty is a sad reality for many and Bobby poor come in many colors, they are all not Black. So stop puffing your chest out threatening. What about the poetry folks, nah they don't support asinine behavior, check your self.
Riley Willerson September 21, 2012 at 01:59 AM
Now where did babaloo speak of cops killing young men, the true hard fact "young men kill young men" very sad. Poor white men kill, poor black men kill, brown men kill , Need I go on..
"The Black Panther of Poetry" September 22, 2012 at 03:38 AM
Don't worry Riley...I deliver too!!! Babaloo 9:15 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 let see, you point a "gun" or fake gun or make threatening gestures towards a police officer and then you get shot. JUSTIFIED as far as I am concerned. I too will go and protest in support of the POLICE. They have a right to go home safe every night. They serve and protect our community. Whether it be Vallejo, San Jose, Washington DC. The Police are the victims here. Dealing with the "Scum of the Earth" at times they have the right to go home safely. The entitlement of "Criminals" has to end. Criminals DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT to kill, main, assault, ROB, commit crimes in our towns. If you point a gun / fake gun weapon, knife, threaten a police officer, CHP, Deputy Sheriff, You will be dealt with accordingly. And don't say " he could have used a taser or pepper sprayed them". that's BS. Someone Points a gun at you that means they want to KILL you. So what would you do when some ass points a gun at you ? OH , I know, lets talk with them, or spray them with some spray versus a bullet, or talk them out of stabbing you with their knife. BS...you would defend yourself accordingly. So get off their backs. I SUPPORT the POLICE. I DO NOT SUPPORT CRIMINALS.
Babaloo September 22, 2012 at 04:00 AM
he couldn't meet the requirements ? I don't know,,maybe boobie may answer. in reference to Bobbie's statement. 1. liar , espousing more lies. "Bobby Richardson, A.K.A., "The Black Panther of Poetry" 10:26 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012 LOOK!!! You weak over six feet tall/small shell of a man!! Your height and yoiur size don't scare me. " Cops do not kill people..people kill people. Police kill those who are threats to them, society and to protect others. Police serve and protect. They have the right to go home safely like anyone else. this does not give criminals the right to "kill" maim, hurt, assault anyone because of their job title. The Police should be respected . If someone tries to hurt them, I pray that the Police Officer goes home safely. That the "criminal gets their "just desserts". The Bible says an eye for an eye. If the Bible says it's true, then it must be true. BTW. Bobby you have never met me. to make such a slanderous statement is assanine. Once again. You should problably shut your mouth if you have nothing nice to say. POS. your mother would be proud of your mouth i am sure. Problably NOT. you are a very disrespectful person, sad that you live amongst good people in our beloved Benicia.
Babaloo September 22, 2012 at 04:02 AM
I SUPPORT the POLICE. I DO NOT SUPPORT CRIMINALS.
rob pearson October 06, 2012 at 04:32 PM
All of you supporters crack me up. You think someone is entitled to a larger pension than the salary they had? lol Wise up folks and look around. The days of insanity are here and it is because of your way of thinking. Hey, business is great so let's drive up house prices. Hey, business is great so let's pay ungodly high wages and benefits.. Oh wait, Things aren't that good anymore. Oh no, what have we done to ourselves? lol Go ahead and support these ridiculous hand outs. Pretty soon the days of reckoning will be upon you and you will have nobody to blame but yourselves. Rob Pearson Ps Hope you are enjoying you sweet gas pump prices.
Robert Livesay October 06, 2012 at 05:21 PM
Rob you are correct. It all started in about 1994. Pensions were in the max range of 50%. Can not undo that. At least they changed it for new hirers. They have also made the employee pay there full share toward their CalPers pension which is in most cases was 8%. Some where paying only 1%. It will get back to more manageable situation but not for at least ten years. I do believe Clinton was our President. Very interesting. Now what we have been experiencing is over kill on food stamps, bail outs and goverment regulations. Lets hope it ends on Nov. 6th. Rob I do hope you are enjoying California.

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